I am using these (I have four) as outer shirts and I really like the fit. The shirt hangs comfortably with extra fabric at the shoulders and gently relaxed elsewhere. I don't have the body for a tight fit so the way this shirt drapes slightly and hangs straight down without being loose is just right. I'm 5' 10" with long arms so ordered a long tall which puts the bottom of the shirt well over my pockets and the sleeves pressing onto my hands--exactly what I wanted. That the fabric is a little thin makes it flexible and drape well and it still hangs nicely and comfortably over an undershirt--especially one that has a tighter fit. I can layer under as the temperature suggests and the shirt still looks and hangs great and is very comfortable.