Returning. I have to agree with other comments on the S/M/L size offerings by EB. If I can order a 34 or better still a 35 waist in any pants or shorts I'm good. I haven't worn a Medium anything in decades. I ordered Large of course. These sit below the natural waists. For me that means they rest just above my hip bones, fine. Without a belt however, in three steps these pants drop to my knees. IMO these Large are beginning at a 36" waist, without taking into account the stretchy fabric .(Large equal 36-38 IMO) From what at least one other reviewer suggests about sizing, I don't dare exchange for a Medium, (thought to be 32-33). What are the 34-35 size guy to do? Lastly, that low-rise does mean a short zipper, and as others have noted, us old guys will likely have to undo our pants to take a leak.