This vest is very disappointing. I had hoped it would be a useful adjunct for my husband to wear under a rain jacket or over a light fleece top but he doesn't feel that it adds much warmth at all. Very flimsy with very little down in it, and low fill power besides. Flattens right out! This is a relatively inexpensive vest but in being essentially useless it's wasted money. I'm ordering the Storm Light down vest instead. More expensive but hopefully worth the price difference. Poor performance is never a bargain. I think EB could do better on an economical down vest.